Ep 206: CJ Hopkins compared modern Germany to Nazi Germany. Now he’s standing trial.
CJ Hopkins is an American playwright, novelist, and political satirist. He moved to Germany in 2004. He publishes a self-titled blog on Substack and is the editor of Consent Factory Publishing.
CJ’s most recent book, “The Rise of the New Normal Reich,” draws a parallel between Nazi Germany and the response to the COVID-19 pandemic. In August 2022, it was banned on Amazon in Germany, Austria, and the Netherlands. In the months that followed, CJ was charged by German authorities with violating a section of the German penal code that prohibits “disseminating information, the intention of which is to further the aims of a former National-Socialist organization [the Nazis].” He was recently acquitted, but the prosecutor chose to appeal the decision.
In the coming months, CJ will stand trial — again — for a crime he claims he didn’t commit and for which he has already been acquitted.
Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
2:58 Who is CJ Hopkins?
9:35 CJ moves to Germany
15:02 CJ’s work since 2004
18:23 Berlin in 2020
27:18 “The Rise of the New Normal Reich”
34:01 CJ’s book banned in Germany, Austria, and the Netherlands
37:05 German investigation
47:26 German sensitivities to Nazism
50:17 Why didn’t CJ just pay the fine?
54:03 CJ goes to trial
1:03:29 Double-jeopardy / prosecutorial appeal
1:08:49 Does CJ have regrets?
1:12:50 Conclusion
Show Notes
Atlantic profile by Jamie Kirchick
“Berlin Diary” by William L. Shirer
“The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” by William L. Shirer
“The Rise of the New Normal Reich” by CJ Hopkins
“The Verdict” by CJ Hopkins, a Substack article about the conclusion of his first trial
“The Rise of the New Normal Reich: Consent Factory Essays, Vol. III, banned in Germany, Austria, and The Netherlands!” by CJ Hopkins, a Substack article about his book being banned on Amazon
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Excellent, CJ is a brave man, and humble man. Thanks for the interview.
Well done!